[W5SFA] License renewal?

Buckeroo Brad buckeroobrad at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 12:35:11 CST 2024


Ok, I pulled down my first 35 question book and started looking it over.
I'll look at the practice test too.  I will try to be ready as soon as
possible to get my license or a new one reinstated.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 6:44 AM Joe Cucuzza <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Brad
> Sorry for the confusing term.  I meant 35 question test.  I don't think
> too clearly between 9 PM and 9 AM  :)
> Here are some links to consider.  The pool of questions changes a little,
> but are basically similar.
> https://hamradioprep.com/free-ham-radio-practice-tests/  I tried this.
> After the practice test is instantly graded, you can review the test and
> look at the explanations.
> https://www.arrl.org/exam-practice
> https://arrlexamreview.appspot.com/
> 73  Joe  KA8WEP
>
> On 1/6/2024 10:51 PM, Buckeroo Brad wrote:
>
> OK, sorry for being a pain. I just feel gyped at the license expiration
> not resetting at passing the general.  I'll pull my technician book out and
> see if I can re-learn all that stuff. Memorization is not easy for me
> anymore.
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:44 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Is the 35 word Technician test different than the original Technician
>> test?  I don't the term "35 word"
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:11 PM cucuzza18 <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> This link shows that the FCC database lists that you held a General
>>> license.
>>> From what I have read it seems to me that proof of your general license
>>> and passing the 35 word Technician test gets your General license back.
>>> Every Amateur new has to pay the $35 fee.
>>> Paper licenses are no longer issued. We have to print them from the FCC
>>> website.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y&licKey=16724458&printable
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my Metro by T-Mobile 5G Device
>>>
>>>
>>> -------- Original message --------
>>> From: Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>> Date: 1/6/24 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
>>> To: Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club <w5sfa at w5sfa.org>
>>> Subject: Re: [W5SFA] License renewal?
>>>
>>> When I looked up my license on FCC site, it just said expired.  It did
>>> not list my rating. I have no proof of my general license and that's why I
>>> thought it had not been registered. I never received the paper license. Nor
>>> did I get any notice of my license expiring.  As I've said, the HAM hobby
>>> as slid off into low priority because of other problems that needed solving
>>> first. I know I should have checked on it sooner, but honestly though I had
>>> 10 years starting from 2017, not 2011.  I'm wondering if I have to take
>>> both tests over again, or if the General will reinstate if I take the Tech
>>> again. But I expect I will have to retake both tests. Do you know?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 7:15 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I take the Tech again, do I also have to take the General again to
>>>> reinstate it?
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 6:22 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I guess I'm screwed then.  I thought that the expiration date reset
>>>>> when I passed the General.  Taking those tests again with my old brain seem
>>>>> monumental now.  I'll try to appeal to the FCC, but if that doesn't work,
>>>>> I'm out.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:56 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> All this time I have believed that my license had been updated to
>>>>>> General and that I still had time to renew it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:54 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Were not the testers responsible for submitting the success of my
>>>>>>> general test in 2017? Sadly, I won't be able to retake the Technician, much
>>>>>>> less the General. Can not the club tell the FCC that I passed that test in
>>>>>>> 2017? That that license should still be in effect?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:50 PM Roger Klein <rwklein at protonmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I took a look at your license on QRZ.com and sure enough it expired
>>>>>>>> on 11-29-2021.  However, you were registered as a General licensee - but
>>>>>>>> note that upgrading your license does not change (or extend) your renewal
>>>>>>>> date - you get 10 years from the initial issue (e.g. when you got your Tech
>>>>>>>> license).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You should  have received an email communication informing you that
>>>>>>>> your license is up for renewal.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a two-year grace period after your license expires where
>>>>>>>> you can renew, but it looks like you are just beyond that.  So I will refer
>>>>>>>> you to this page:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From my read of the page, it appears that after the two year grace
>>>>>>>> period your license is cancelled.  You can reinstate and get credit for
>>>>>>>> your General ticket, but unfortunately it looks like you'll need to retake
>>>>>>>> the Technician exam and upon passing you'll be issued a new call sign.  The
>>>>>>>> left side of that ARRL web page has a lot of good information as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The FCC is now charging a $35 fee for both new licenses and
>>>>>>>> renewals, which you have to pay online.  The FCC also requires you to get
>>>>>>>> an FRN number as they have moved much of the licensing process to be
>>>>>>>> electronic.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Let me know if you have further questions!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from Proton Mail mobile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2024, 5:27 PM, Buckeroo Brad < buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brad Taylor here. OK HAM buffs, I took and passed the General test
>>>>>>>> on 7/26/2017 but apparently the testers did not turn the results into the
>>>>>>>> FCC and my Technician license expired in 2021. I am no longer licensed.
>>>>>>>> What do I do to get my General rating and my license back?
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