[W5SFA] License renewal?

Mon Jan 8 15:29:59 CST 2024

Brad,

Once you get so you’re routinely passing the practice exams, you should be ready to go.  BTW, make sure you’re using one of those sites Joe listed, as they make some minor changes to the test every 3 years.  The web sites will be up to date.

You’ll need to register on the FCC site and get an FRN number if you don’t already have one – they made that a requirement a few years back.  Here’s the link:  https://apps.fcc.gov/cores/userLogin.do 

Give us a few weeks warning as to when you want to test so we can get a team together.

73,

Roger

From: w5sfa [mailto:w5sfa-bounces at w5sfa.org] On Behalf Of Buckeroo Brad
Sent: Monday, January 8, 2024 12:35 PM
To: Cucuzza18 at gmail.com; Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club
Subject: Re: [W5SFA] License renewal?

Ok, I pulled down my first 35 question book and started looking it over. I'll look at the practice test too.  I will try to be ready as soon as possible to get my license or a new one reinstated.

On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 6:44 AM Joe Cucuzza <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Brad
Sorry for the confusing term.  I meant 35 question test.  I don't think too clearly between 9 PM and 9 AM  :)
Here are some links to consider.  The pool of questions changes a little, but are basically similar.
https://hamradioprep.com/free-ham-radio-practice-tests/  I tried this.  After the practice test is instantly graded, you can review the test and look at the explanations.
https://www.arrl.org/exam-practice
https://arrlexamreview.appspot.com/
73  Joe  KA8WEP

On 1/6/2024 10:51 PM, Buckeroo Brad wrote:

OK, sorry for being a pain. I just feel gyped at the license expiration not resetting at passing the general.  I'll pull my technician book out and see if I can re-learn all that stuff. Memorization is not easy for me anymore.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:44 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote:

Is the 35 word Technician test different than the original Technician test?  I don't the term "35 word"

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:11 PM cucuzza18 <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:

This link shows that the FCC database lists that you held a General license. 

>From what I have read it seems to me that proof of your general license and passing the 35 word Technician test gets your General license back. Every Amateur new has to pay the $35 fee.

Paper licenses are no longer issued. We have to print them from the FCC website. 

https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y <https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y&licKey=16724458&printable> &licKey=16724458&printable

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From: Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com> 

Date: 1/6/24 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00) 

To: Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club <w5sfa at w5sfa.org> 

Subject: Re: [W5SFA] License renewal? 

When I looked up my license on FCC site, it just said expired.  It did not list my rating. I have no proof of my general license and that's why I thought it had not been registered. I never received the paper license. Nor did I get any notice of my license expiring.  As I've said, the HAM hobby as slid off into low priority because of other problems that needed solving first. I know I should have checked on it sooner, but honestly though I had 10 years starting from 2017, not 2011.  I'm wondering if I have to take both tests over again, or if the General will reinstate if I take the Tech again. But I expect I will have to retake both tests. Do you know?

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 7:15 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote:

If I take the Tech again, do I also have to take the General again to reinstate it?

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 6:22 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote:

I guess I'm screwed then.  I thought that the expiration date reset when I passed the General.  Taking those tests again with my old brain seem monumental now.  I'll try to appeal to the FCC, but if that doesn't work, I'm out.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:56 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote:

All this time I have believed that my license had been updated to General and that I still had time to renew it.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:54 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote:

Were not the testers responsible for submitting the success of my general test in 2017? Sadly, I won't be able to retake the Technician, much less the General. Can not the club tell the FCC that I passed that test in 2017? That that license should still be in effect?

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:50 PM Roger Klein <rwklein at protonmail.com> wrote:

Brad,

I took a look at your license on QRZ.com and sure enough it expired on 11-29-2021.  However, you were registered as a General licensee - but note that upgrading your license does not change (or extend) your renewal date - you get 10 years from the initial issue (e.g. when you got your Tech license).

You should  have received an email communication informing you that your license is up for renewal.

There is a two-year grace period after your license expires where you can renew, but it looks like you are just beyond that.  So I will refer you to this page:

https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit

>From my read of the page, it appears that after the two year grace period your license is cancelled.  You can reinstate and get credit for your General ticket, but unfortunately it looks like you'll need to retake the Technician exam and upon passing you'll be issued a new call sign.  The left side of that ARRL web page has a lot of good information as well.

The FCC is now charging a $35 fee for both new licenses and renewals, which you have to pay online.  The FCC also requires you to get an FRN number as they have moved much of the licensing process to be electronic.

Let me know if you have further questions!

73,

Roger

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On Jan 6, 2024, 5:27 PM, Buckeroo Brad < buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote: 

Brad Taylor here. OK HAM buffs, I took and passed the General test on 7/26/2017 but apparently the testers did not turn the results into the FCC and my Technician license expired in 2021. I am no longer licensed. What do I do to get my General rating and my license back?

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