[W5SFA] License renewal?

Mon Jan 8 16:27:28 CST 2024

When should I get the FRN number?  I think I saw one attached to my KF5NNZ
license.

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 3:36 PM Roger Klein <rwklein at katyweb.net> wrote:

> Brad,
>
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> Once you get so you’re routinely passing the practice exams, you should be
> ready to go.  BTW, make sure you’re using one of those sites Joe listed, as
> they make some minor changes to the test every 3 years.  The web sites will
> be up to date.
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> You’ll need to register on the FCC site and get an FRN number if you don’t
> already have one – they made that a requirement a few years back.  Here’s
> the link:  https://apps.fcc.gov/cores/userLogin.do
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> Give us a few weeks warning as to when you want to test so we can get a
> team together.
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> 73,
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> Roger
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> *From:* w5sfa [mailto:w5sfa-bounces at w5sfa.org] *On Behalf Of *Buckeroo
> Brad
> *Sent:* Monday, January 8, 2024 12:35 PM
> *To:* Cucuzza18 at gmail.com; Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club
> *Subject:* Re: [W5SFA] License renewal?
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> Ok, I pulled down my first 35 question book and started looking it over.
> I'll look at the practice test too.  I will try to be ready as soon as
> possible to get my license or a new one reinstated.
>
>
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> On Sun, Jan 7, 2024 at 6:44 AM Joe Cucuzza <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Brad
> Sorry for the confusing term.  I meant 35 question test.  I don't think
> too clearly between 9 PM and 9 AM  :)
> Here are some links to consider.  The pool of questions changes a little,
> but are basically similar.
> https://hamradioprep.com/free-ham-radio-practice-tests/  I tried this.
> After the practice test is instantly graded, you can review the test and
> look at the explanations.
> https://www.arrl.org/exam-practice
> https://arrlexamreview.appspot.com/
> 73  Joe  KA8WEP
>
> On 1/6/2024 10:51 PM, Buckeroo Brad wrote:
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> OK, sorry for being a pain. I just feel gyped at the license expiration
> not resetting at passing the general.  I'll pull my technician book out and
> see if I can re-learn all that stuff. Memorization is not easy for me
> anymore.
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:44 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Is the 35 word Technician test different than the original Technician
> test?  I don't the term "35 word"
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:11 PM cucuzza18 <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:
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> This link shows that the FCC database lists that you held a General
> license.
>
> From what I have read it seems to me that proof of your general license
> and passing the 35 word Technician test gets your General license back.
> Every Amateur new has to pay the $35 fee.
>
> Paper licenses are no longer issued. We have to print them from the FCC
> website.
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> https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y&licKey=16724458&printable
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> -------- Original message --------
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> From: Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>
> Date: 1/6/24 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
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> To: Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club <w5sfa at w5sfa.org>
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> Subject: Re: [W5SFA] License renewal?
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> When I looked up my license on FCC site, it just said expired.  It did not
> list my rating. I have no proof of my general license and that's why I
> thought it had not been registered. I never received the paper license. Nor
> did I get any notice of my license expiring.  As I've said, the HAM hobby
> as slid off into low priority because of other problems that needed solving
> first. I know I should have checked on it sooner, but honestly though I had
> 10 years starting from 2017, not 2011.  I'm wondering if I have to take
> both tests over again, or if the General will reinstate if I take the Tech
> again. But I expect I will have to retake both tests. Do you know?
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 7:15 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> If I take the Tech again, do I also have to take the General again to
> reinstate it?
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 6:22 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> I guess I'm screwed then.  I thought that the expiration date reset when I
> passed the General.  Taking those tests again with my old brain seem
> monumental now.  I'll try to appeal to the FCC, but if that doesn't work,
> I'm out.
>
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:56 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> All this time I have believed that my license had been updated to General
> and that I still had time to renew it.
>
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:54 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> Were not the testers responsible for submitting the success of my general
> test in 2017? Sadly, I won't be able to retake the Technician, much less
> the General. Can not the club tell the FCC that I passed that test in 2017?
> That that license should still be in effect?
>
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> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:50 PM Roger Klein <rwklein at protonmail.com> wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
>
>
> I took a look at your license on QRZ.com and sure enough it expired on
> 11-29-2021.  However, you were registered as a General licensee - but note
> that upgrading your license does not change (or extend) your renewal date -
> you get 10 years from the initial issue (e.g. when you got your Tech
> license).
>
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> You should  have received an email communication informing you that your
> license is up for renewal.
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> There is a two-year grace period after your license expires where you can
> renew, but it looks like you are just beyond that.  So I will refer you to
> this page:
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> https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit
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> From my read of the page, it appears that after the two year grace period
> your license is cancelled.  You can reinstate and get credit for your
> General ticket, but unfortunately it looks like you'll need to retake the
> Technician exam and upon passing you'll be issued a new call sign.  The
> left side of that ARRL web page has a lot of good information as well.
>
>
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> The FCC is now charging a $35 fee for both new licenses and renewals,
> which you have to pay online.  The FCC also requires you to get an FRN
> number as they have moved much of the licensing process to be electronic.
>
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> Let me know if you have further questions!
>
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> 73,
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> Roger
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> -------- Original Message --------
> On Jan 6, 2024, 5:27 PM, Buckeroo Brad < buckeroobrad at gmail.com> wrote:
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> Brad Taylor here. OK HAM buffs, I took and passed the General test on
> 7/26/2017 but apparently the testers did not turn the results into the FCC
> and my Technician license expired in 2021. I am no longer licensed. What do
> I do to get my General rating and my license back?
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