[W5SFA] License renewal?

Sat Jan 6 22:51:22 CST 2024

OK, sorry for being a pain. I just feel gyped at the license expiration not
resetting at passing the general.  I'll pull my technician book out and see
if I can re-learn all that stuff. Memorization is not easy for me anymore.

On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:44 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Is the 35 word Technician test different than the original Technician
> test?  I don't the term "35 word"
>
> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 10:11 PM cucuzza18 <cucuzza18 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This link shows that the FCC database lists that you held a General
>> license.
>> From what I have read it seems to me that proof of your general license
>> and passing the 35 word Technician test gets your General license back.
>> Every Amateur new has to pay the $35 fee.
>> Paper licenses are no longer issued. We have to print them from the FCC
>> website.
>>
>>
>> https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/LicArchive/license.jsp?archive=Y&licKey=16724458&printable
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Metro by T-Mobile 5G Device
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>> Date: 1/6/24 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00)
>> To: Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club <w5sfa at w5sfa.org>
>> Subject: Re: [W5SFA] License renewal?
>>
>> When I looked up my license on FCC site, it just said expired.  It did
>> not list my rating. I have no proof of my general license and that's why I
>> thought it had not been registered. I never received the paper license. Nor
>> did I get any notice of my license expiring.  As I've said, the HAM hobby
>> as slid off into low priority because of other problems that needed solving
>> first. I know I should have checked on it sooner, but honestly though I had
>> 10 years starting from 2017, not 2011.  I'm wondering if I have to take
>> both tests over again, or if the General will reinstate if I take the Tech
>> again. But I expect I will have to retake both tests. Do you know?
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 7:15 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If I take the Tech again, do I also have to take the General again to
>>> reinstate it?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 6:22 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I guess I'm screwed then.  I thought that the expiration date reset
>>>> when I passed the General.  Taking those tests again with my old brain seem
>>>> monumental now.  I'll try to appeal to the FCC, but if that doesn't work,
>>>> I'm out.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:56 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> All this time I have believed that my license had been updated to
>>>>> General and that I still had time to renew it.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:54 PM Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Were not the testers responsible for submitting the success of my
>>>>>> general test in 2017? Sadly, I won't be able to retake the Technician, much
>>>>>> less the General. Can not the club tell the FCC that I passed that test in
>>>>>> 2017? That that license should still be in effect?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:50 PM Roger Klein <rwklein at protonmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I took a look at your license on QRZ.com and sure enough it expired
>>>>>>> on 11-29-2021.  However, you were registered as a General licensee - but
>>>>>>> note that upgrading your license does not change (or extend) your renewal
>>>>>>> date - you get 10 years from the initial issue (e.g. when you got your Tech
>>>>>>> license).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You should  have received an email communication informing you that
>>>>>>> your license is up for renewal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a two-year grace period after your license expires where
>>>>>>> you can renew, but it looks like you are just beyond that.  So I will refer
>>>>>>> you to this page:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From my read of the page, it appears that after the two year grace
>>>>>>> period your license is cancelled.  You can reinstate and get credit for
>>>>>>> your General ticket, but unfortunately it looks like you'll need to retake
>>>>>>> the Technician exam and upon passing you'll be issued a new call sign.  The
>>>>>>> left side of that ARRL web page has a lot of good information as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The FCC is now charging a $35 fee for both new licenses and
>>>>>>> renewals, which you have to pay online.  The FCC also requires you to get
>>>>>>> an FRN number as they have moved much of the licensing process to be
>>>>>>> electronic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if you have further questions!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Roger
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from Proton Mail mobile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2024, 5:27 PM, Buckeroo Brad < buckeroobrad at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Brad Taylor here. OK HAM buffs, I took and passed the General test
>>>>>>> on 7/26/2017 but apparently the testers did not turn the results into the
>>>>>>> FCC and my Technician license expired in 2021. I am no longer licensed.
>>>>>>> What do I do to get my General rating and my license back?
>>>>>>>
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