<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Thank you. Now to study online for a test. Having eye problems and it's all I can do to read for work purposes. I can watch videos, so I will look into the online study.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jan 20, 2026 at 2:45\u202fPM Justin Pauler (W5JWP) <justin@w5jwp.radio> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I spoke with the ARRL VEC and was able to get clarification on your situation.</div>
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A license upgrade (in your case, Technician to General) does not extend or reset the term of a license. Like you - and others I spoke with - I had assumed that an upgrade would renew the license term. The truth is that there are only two actions that reset
the expiration date: renewing the license itself or obtaining a vanity callsign.</div>
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That said, the ARRL VEC advised that if you retake and pass the Technician exam and can provide proof that you previously passed the General class exam (for example, a CSCE or a copy of your General class license), your General class privileges can be reinstated.</div>
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It may not be the ideal outcome, but it does avoid having to retake both exams.</div>
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<b>From: </b>Buckeroo Brad <<a href="mailto:buckeroobrad@gmail.com" target="_blank">buckeroobrad@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Tuesday, January 20, 2026 at 13:57<br>
<b>To: </b>Justin Pauler (W5JWP) <justin@w5jwp.radio><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Mail List for the W5SFA Radio Club <<a href="mailto:w5sfa@w5sfa.org" target="_blank">w5sfa@w5sfa.org</a>>, Brian Gaskamp <<a href="mailto:ka5bkg@sbcglobal.net" target="_blank">ka5bkg@sbcglobal.net</a>><br>
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Thank you. I'm bummed about losing the license and also bummed by the more complicated Tech test. I'm not doing this for a business. It was just a very mild hobby for my old age. The C19 era messed up a lot of things.</div>
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I relayed the information exactly as it appears in QRZ, which shows your license (KF5NNZ) expired in November 2021 and that the renewal window has passed. As a result, there are currently no operating privileges associated with that callsign.</div>
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You can verify this directly here: <a href="https://www.qrz.com/db/KF5NNZ." target="_blank">
https://www.qrz.com/db/KF5NNZ.</a></div>
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After you mentioned upgrading in 2017, I located that application, which was approved on 08/01/2017. Under normal circumstances, that upgrade would have extended your expiration date to 2027. However, the application includes an unusual detail.</div>
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The \u201cRequested Expiration Date\u201d field is populated. That\u2019s not something I\u2019ve personally seen before, and if it were honored, would provide a 12-year term. Given that inconsistency, this appears to be an issue best addressed by the VEC that handled the filing.
I recommend contacting W5YI directly at <a href="mailto:vec@w5yi-vec.org" target="_blank">
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Best,</div>
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<b>To: </b>Buckeroo Brad via w5sfa <<a href="mailto:w5sfa@w5sfa.org" target="_blank">w5sfa@w5sfa.org</a>><br>
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On Monday, January 19, 2026 at 02:53:40 PM CST, Buckeroo Brad via w5sfa <<a href="mailto:w5sfa@w5sfa.org" target="_blank">w5sfa@w5sfa.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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Forget that guy; he can't help. What is the length of time a general license is good for? The Washington County fellow indicated that the General license only is good for 4 years.</div>
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On Saturday, January 17, 2026 at 02:23:15 PM CST, Lisa Karabatsos via w5sfa <<a href="mailto:w5sfa@w5sfa.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">w5sfa@w5sfa.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div>I didn\u2019t see the attachment. I\u2019d be interested in the tech class. </div>
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Thank you. I wrote this guy to see if this can help me get my Tech back.</div>
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<div>Technician Training available. </div>
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