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Hi Brad<br>
Sorry for the confusing term. I meant 35 question test. I don't
think too clearly between 9 PM and 9 AM :)<br>
Here are some links to consider. The pool of questions changes a
little, but are basically similar.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://hamradioprep.com/free-ham-radio-practice-tests/">https://hamradioprep.com/free-ham-radio-practice-tests/</a> I tried
this. After the practice test is instantly graded, you can review
the test and look at the explanations.<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.arrl.org/exam-practice">https://www.arrl.org/exam-practice</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://arrlexamreview.appspot.com/">https://arrlexamreview.appspot.com/</a><br>
73 Joe KA8WEP<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/6/2024 10:51 PM, Buckeroo Brad
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style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">OK,
sorry for being a pain. I just feel gyped at the license
expiration not resetting at passing the general. I'll pull my
technician book out and see if I can re-learn all that stuff.
Memorization is not easy for me anymore.<br>
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the 35 word Technician test different than the original
Technician test? I don't the term "35 word"<br>
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10:11 PM cucuzza18 <<a
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<div dir="auto">This link shows that the FCC database
lists that you held a General license. </div>
<div dir="auto">From what I have read it seems to me
that proof of your general license and passing the 35
word Technician test gets your General license back.
Every Amateur new has to pay the $35 fee.</div>
<div dir="auto">Paper licenses are no longer issued. We
have to print them from the FCC website. </div>
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<div>Date: 1/6/24 8:20 PM (GMT-06:00) </div>
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<div>Subject: Re: [W5SFA] License renewal? </div>
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class="gmail_default">When I looked up my license on
FCC site, it just said expired. It did not list my
rating. I have no proof of my general license and
that's why I thought it had not been registered. I
never received the paper license. Nor did I get any
notice of my license expiring. As I've said, the
HAM hobby as slid off into low priority because of
other problems that needed solving first. I know I
should have checked on it sooner, but honestly
though I had 10 years starting from 2017, not 2011.
I'm wondering if I have to take both tests over
again, or if the General will reinstate if I take
the Tech again. But I expect I will have to retake
both tests. Do you know?<br>
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at 7:15 PM Buckeroo Brad <<a
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class="gmail_default">If I take the Tech again,
do I also have to take the General again to
reinstate it?<br>
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2024 at 6:22 PM Buckeroo Brad <<a
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class="gmail_default">I guess I'm screwed
then. I thought that the expiration date
reset when I passed the General. Taking
those tests again with my old brain seem
monumental now. I'll try to appeal to the
FCC, but if that doesn't work, I'm out.<br>
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6, 2024 at 5:56 PM Buckeroo Brad <<a
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class="gmail_default">All this time I
have believed that my license had been
updated to General and that I still had
time to renew it.<br>
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Jan 6, 2024 at 5:54 PM Buckeroo Brad
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class="gmail_default">Were not the
testers responsible for submitting
the success of my general test in
2017? Sadly, I won't be able to
retake the Technician, much less the
General. Can not the club tell the
FCC that I passed that test in 2017?
That that license should still be in
effect?<br>
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Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:50 PM Roger
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">I
took a look at your license on
QRZ.com and sure enough it expired
on 11-29-2021. However, you were
registered as a General licensee -
but note that upgrading your
license does not change (or
extend) your renewal date - you
get 10 years from the initial
issue (e.g. when you got your Tech
license).</div>
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">You
should have received an email
communication informing you that
your license is up for renewal.</div>
<div
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<div
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is a two-year grace period after
your license expires where you can
renew, but it looks like you are
just beyond that. So I will refer
you to this page:</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><span><a
href="https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit</a></span><br>
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style="font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;color:rgb(0,0,0);background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">From
my read of the page, it appears
that after the two year grace
period your license is cancelled.
You can reinstate and get credit
for your General ticket, but
unfortunately it looks like you'll
need to retake the Technician exam
and upon passing you'll be issued
a new call sign. The left side of
that ARRL web page has a lot of
good information as well.</div>
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<div
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FCC is now charging a $35 fee for
both new licenses and renewals,
which you have to pay online. The
FCC also requires you to get an
FRN number as they have moved much
of the licensing process to be
electronic.</div>
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<div
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me know if you have further
questions!</div>
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OK HAM buffs, I took and
passed the General test on
7/26/2017 but apparently the
testers did not turn the
results into the FCC and my
Technician license expired in
2021. I am no longer licensed.
What do I do to get my General
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