<div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Brad, </div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Your passing of the General test was properly submitted by the club's examiners and it was recorded by the FCC on 8/1/2017. You can verify this yourself at <a target="_blank" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp">https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/searchLicense.jsp</a> Just put in your callsign near the top of the page, then click on your callsign when it's found. You'll see that you are listed as a General class licensee.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">As I noted earlier, upgrading your license does not extend your renewal date. It's your responsibility to keep track of and renew your license when it nears expiration. It's a shame you didn't notice a few months ago, as you could have renewed before the FCC cancelled your license. Normally you should get notified by email that it's up for renewal a few months before it expires, perhaps you missed it or something else happened. </div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">But in any case, the only resolution you have is to retake the Technician test, which upon passing will get you a new license and callsign. My understanding is that you will granted at the General level and not be required to retake the General test, since you get credit for already passing it back in 2017.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I'll help in any way I can, but the bottom line is that you'll need to retake the Technician test to get reinstated. Since you passed it before, it shouldn't be that difficult.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Roger</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px;"><br></div>
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On Saturday, January 6th, 2024 at 5:54 PM, Buckeroo Brad <buckeroobrad@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br>
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<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large" class="gmail_default">Were not the testers responsible for submitting the success of my general test in 2017? Sadly, I won't be able to retake the Technician, much less the General. Can not the club tell the FCC that I passed that test in 2017? That that license should still be in effect?<br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 5:50 PM Roger Klein <<a href="mailto:rwklein@protonmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">rwklein@protonmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Brad,</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">I took a look at your license on QRZ.com and sure enough it expired on 11-29-2021. However, you were registered as a General licensee - but note that upgrading your license does not change (or extend) your renewal date - you get 10 years from the initial issue (e.g. when you got your Tech license).</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">You should have received an email communication informing you that your license is up for renewal.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">There is a two-year grace period after your license expires where you can renew, but it looks like you are just beyond that. So I will refer you to this page:</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><a target="_blank" href="https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">https://www.arrl.org/expired-license-credit</a></span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">From my read of the page, it appears that after the two year grace period your license is cancelled. You can reinstate and get credit for your General ticket, but unfortunately it looks like you'll need to retake the Technician exam and upon passing you'll be issued a new call sign. The left side of that ARRL web page has a lot of good information as well.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">The FCC is now charging a $35 fee for both new licenses and renewals, which you have to pay online. The FCC also requires you to get an FRN number as they have moved much of the licensing process to be electronic.</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Let me know if you have further questions!</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">73,</div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Roger</div><br><br>Sent from Proton Mail mobile<br><br><br><br>-------- Original Message --------<br>On Jan 6, 2024, 5:27 PM, Buckeroo Brad < <a target="_blank" href="mailto:buckeroobrad@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">buckeroobrad@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<blockquote><br><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:tahoma,sans-serif;font-size:large">Brad Taylor here. OK HAM buffs, I took and passed the General test on 7/26/2017 but apparently the testers did not turn the results into the FCC and my Technician license expired in 2021. I am no longer licensed. What do I do to get my General rating and my license back?<br clear="all"></div><br><span class="gmail_signature_prefix">-- </span><br><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature"><hr size="2" width="100%"><font size="2" style="font-size:10pt">Please, if you forward this, remove my email address before you do. I
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